Post by erppc on Oct 26, 2010 18:48:48 GMT -5
Here's a list of places that you can play Dominion on:
The built in TCP/IP internet play : Dominion has its own built-in internet connectivity, believe it or not. It's not that old of a game.
I've gotten it to work over my LAN, but I can't seem to get it going over the internet.
It requires a few ports open to work:
2300-2400
47624
You don't have to touch these if you're playing through other methods, this is just for the built in method.
I recommend opening both TCP and UDP for these, since Dominion's change to UDP protocol wasn't very well explained.
www.gameranger.com : You've probably tried this one already. Very hit and miss; for example, I can't host Dominion, but I can host other games.
I've noticed that the game "hijacker", which automatically sends the game to the multiplayer seciton, sometimes desyncs. Half the times I've tried Homeworld, it would get stuck on the game naming screen where it puts in a title for the game.
Also strange is the fact that I and Stormovergift3 both appear to need to have Hamachi on in order for this program to work. This is especially strange, since Gameranger suggests that Hamachi be turned off to avoid problems. Gameranger is also limited to 4 players maximum, due to using Dominion's poorly coded TCP interface (it supported 8 in version 1.0, but they cut it down to 4). It doesn't require any ports open (allegedly).
secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi2 : I haven't gotten it to work. However, I have almost no problems using it for other games, so I'm not sure why that is.
Hamachi has gotten WAY better than it was in 2005, where you were forced to route data through a central server (now it is a direct connection).
A strange thing with it is that I have to reinstall it to get it to work properly every time I launch Gameranger. It supports 4 players over TCP, since IPX support was taken out (though I heard you can add it back... not sure what to make of that). It's a VPN, so by design it doesn't require any ports open.
Hamachi can prevent the other programs listed here from working properly, like Kali, when it is turned on and the Hamachi adapter is connected. It is best to turn it off if you want to try something else. It must be turned off COMPLETELY, that means you also have to disable the adapter. To do this, go Start > Control Panel > Network Connections, then Right-Click on Hamachi and Disable it.
A strange thing is that Gameranger appears to work better for me and Stormovergift3 when the adapter is turned on. Of course, this may just be a fluke as Dominion takes several tries to start sometimes... but it always appears to start working when we have it on.
www.kali.net : An ancient IPX emulator that works spectacularly. It's the best thing we've tried yet, there was no lag whatsoever. However, there is a monster learning curve to using it, and Hamachi must be completely shut off. It's also technically not free, with a 30 day free trial. However, you can just keep getting the free trial over and over.
You can either scan for games, which will find some false positives more likely than not, or you can add Dominion manually. Start up Kali, expand the Chat Servers folder on the left-hand side, click on Game Servers, and find the server labeled "-> Dominion", and join it. Actually, any server will work for any game, but we may as well use the correctly labeled one! Once inside, right-click on the long empty field at the bottom of the screen, below the name list. Click Add New Game, and locate Dominion from the list. Now click browse, and navigate to the folder where you installed Dominion. Select the Dominion.exe file, and hit OK.
Now to play, all players participating have to be in the same chat-room as you. Simply double-click the icon you just set up, which will launch Dominion. Select Multiplayer, then IPX. Either create a game, or wait for the host to make it and click on that.
Since Kali uses the IPX protocol, which didn't get hit by the nerf-bat in Dominion's 1.2 patch, it supports up to 8 players. Kali also doesn't require any ports open to work. However, Vista and Windows 7 users will probably have trouble getting this to work properly, because this program hasn't been updated since before Vista to support newer operating systems. Stormovergift3 couldn't see any of the chat servers on his Vista machine.
www.morpheussoftware.net/git/ : A tool somewhat similar to Hamachi, but can do IPX. It requires port 213 open to work though. Haven't tested it.
www.gamespy.com/ : I had to open a bazillion ports just to get it working, but it does launch.
Ports you need open:
* 6667 (IRC)
* 3783 (Voice Chat Port) (guess you don't need this)
* 27900 (Master Server UDP Heartbeat)
* 28900 (Master Server List Request)
* 29900 (GP Connection Manager)
* 29901 (GP Search Manager)
* 13139 (Custom UDP Pings)
* 6515 (Dplay UDP)
* 6500 (Query Port)
They claim that these are TCP ports, but why does it say UDP for some of them? I opened both types for each.
I have no idea what protocol this thing uses, although I wouldn't be surprised if it used the old M-Player.com hook, which I'm pretty sure is TCP (I think Gameranger uses this too).
www.tunngle.net/en/downloads/ : Another tunneler. It seems to only support TCP/IP at this time. I don't know much else about this, I just found it.
The built in TCP/IP internet play : Dominion has its own built-in internet connectivity, believe it or not. It's not that old of a game.
I've gotten it to work over my LAN, but I can't seem to get it going over the internet.
It requires a few ports open to work:
2300-2400
47624
You don't have to touch these if you're playing through other methods, this is just for the built in method.
I recommend opening both TCP and UDP for these, since Dominion's change to UDP protocol wasn't very well explained.
www.gameranger.com : You've probably tried this one already. Very hit and miss; for example, I can't host Dominion, but I can host other games.
I've noticed that the game "hijacker", which automatically sends the game to the multiplayer seciton, sometimes desyncs. Half the times I've tried Homeworld, it would get stuck on the game naming screen where it puts in a title for the game.
Also strange is the fact that I and Stormovergift3 both appear to need to have Hamachi on in order for this program to work. This is especially strange, since Gameranger suggests that Hamachi be turned off to avoid problems. Gameranger is also limited to 4 players maximum, due to using Dominion's poorly coded TCP interface (it supported 8 in version 1.0, but they cut it down to 4). It doesn't require any ports open (allegedly).
secure.logmein.com/products/hamachi2 : I haven't gotten it to work. However, I have almost no problems using it for other games, so I'm not sure why that is.
Hamachi has gotten WAY better than it was in 2005, where you were forced to route data through a central server (now it is a direct connection).
A strange thing with it is that I have to reinstall it to get it to work properly every time I launch Gameranger. It supports 4 players over TCP, since IPX support was taken out (though I heard you can add it back... not sure what to make of that). It's a VPN, so by design it doesn't require any ports open.
Hamachi can prevent the other programs listed here from working properly, like Kali, when it is turned on and the Hamachi adapter is connected. It is best to turn it off if you want to try something else. It must be turned off COMPLETELY, that means you also have to disable the adapter. To do this, go Start > Control Panel > Network Connections, then Right-Click on Hamachi and Disable it.
A strange thing is that Gameranger appears to work better for me and Stormovergift3 when the adapter is turned on. Of course, this may just be a fluke as Dominion takes several tries to start sometimes... but it always appears to start working when we have it on.
www.kali.net : An ancient IPX emulator that works spectacularly. It's the best thing we've tried yet, there was no lag whatsoever. However, there is a monster learning curve to using it, and Hamachi must be completely shut off. It's also technically not free, with a 30 day free trial. However, you can just keep getting the free trial over and over.
You can either scan for games, which will find some false positives more likely than not, or you can add Dominion manually. Start up Kali, expand the Chat Servers folder on the left-hand side, click on Game Servers, and find the server labeled "-> Dominion", and join it. Actually, any server will work for any game, but we may as well use the correctly labeled one! Once inside, right-click on the long empty field at the bottom of the screen, below the name list. Click Add New Game, and locate Dominion from the list. Now click browse, and navigate to the folder where you installed Dominion. Select the Dominion.exe file, and hit OK.
Now to play, all players participating have to be in the same chat-room as you. Simply double-click the icon you just set up, which will launch Dominion. Select Multiplayer, then IPX. Either create a game, or wait for the host to make it and click on that.
Since Kali uses the IPX protocol, which didn't get hit by the nerf-bat in Dominion's 1.2 patch, it supports up to 8 players. Kali also doesn't require any ports open to work. However, Vista and Windows 7 users will probably have trouble getting this to work properly, because this program hasn't been updated since before Vista to support newer operating systems. Stormovergift3 couldn't see any of the chat servers on his Vista machine.
www.morpheussoftware.net/git/ : A tool somewhat similar to Hamachi, but can do IPX. It requires port 213 open to work though. Haven't tested it.
www.gamespy.com/ : I had to open a bazillion ports just to get it working, but it does launch.
Ports you need open:
* 6667 (IRC)
* 3783 (Voice Chat Port) (guess you don't need this)
* 27900 (Master Server UDP Heartbeat)
* 28900 (Master Server List Request)
* 29900 (GP Connection Manager)
* 29901 (GP Search Manager)
* 13139 (Custom UDP Pings)
* 6515 (Dplay UDP)
* 6500 (Query Port)
They claim that these are TCP ports, but why does it say UDP for some of them? I opened both types for each.
I have no idea what protocol this thing uses, although I wouldn't be surprised if it used the old M-Player.com hook, which I'm pretty sure is TCP (I think Gameranger uses this too).
www.tunngle.net/en/downloads/ : Another tunneler. It seems to only support TCP/IP at this time. I don't know much else about this, I just found it.